Monday, June 29, 2015

Is there really a player to be named?

Kevin Brandt
Traded from Washinhgton to Laredo during
spring training for a PTBNL.
Have you noticed that the Wild Things have traded a lot of players to other independent leagues and received only a "player to be named later" in return?

Actually, they've been getting nothing in return in the majority of those trades.

Sometimes the team the Wild Things send a player to goes out of business before Washington can get somebody in return. A few times the team that owes the Wild Things a player was part of a league that folded before the trade was completed.

The player-to-be-named-later-trade is often done just to get a player out of the Frontier League so he can't play against Washington and help his new team beat the Wild Things.

Sometimes you can get the odd situation in which a player is traded for a PTBNL and that player turns out to be the original guy. In other words, a player is trade for himself. A Wikipedia search revealed that this has happened four times in major league history, most recently in 2005 when former Pirates infielder John McDonald was traded from Toronto to Detroit for a PTBNL and then back to Toronto.

This also happened, in part, with Jonathan Kountis. The Wild Things reliever was traded last November to the Kansas City T-Bones of the American Association in exchange for pitchers Hamilton Bennett and Andy Noga along with a PTBNL. Bennett and Noga never signed with the Wild Things, and last week Kountis was traded back to Washington by Kansas City.

The Frontier League website lists all transactions back to the beginning of 2006. Here is a list of PTBNL trades, dating back to 2006, made by Washington in which (I believe) the Wild Things have received nothing in return. At the least, this is a trip down memory lane. How many of these guys do you remember?

Washington is owed a PTBNL from:

Laredo for Jeudy Valdez
Laredo for Kevin Brandt
Fargo-Moorhead for Jhonny Montoya
Frontier Greys for Joe Poletsky
Lancaster for Jhonny Montoya
Roswell for Michael Miller
Abilene (league defunct) for Lyndon Price
Roswell for Matt Kretchmer
Roswell for David Peters
Roswell for Rashad Taylor
Roswell for Wes Kartch
Alpine for Rob Herrmann
Abilene (league defunct) for Mickey Jannis
York for Justin Edwards
White Sands for Alex Casillas
San Angelo (league defunct) for Steve Macfarland
Amarillo Dillas (league defunct) for Cory Wine
Las Cruces (league defunct) for Aaron Guinn
Lake Erie for Matt Sutton - listed on transaction page as for future considerations
Lancaster for Joe D'Alessandro
Joliet (of defunct Northern League) for Tim Alberts
Joliet (of defunct Northern League) for Ismael Castro
Slippery Rock (team defunct) for Jarrod Klausman
Newark (team defunct) for Pat Peavy
Fullerton (league defunct) for Jon Grijalva
North Shore (team defunct) for Julio Medina
Rockford for Robert Morgan and Ryan McGraw
Sussex (team defunct) for David Reaver

11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That pretty well sums up the way the Wild Things powers that be operate doesn't it?
It really doesn't matter because the players that were traded all future major league players and would not have stayed in an Independent league too long anyway. LOL. They keep all the really good players here. We can tell that by their win-lost percentage.

June 30, 2015 at 7:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we ship the General Manager out for Anybody To Be Named Later, as long as its not him?

June 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've got his title wrong. It's Assistant General Manager. There is no such title in the WT office as General Manager. If there were such a thing, the name would be Stu Williams. It's sort of like being an Assistant Manager at McDonalds only not so ineffective as the WT Asst. General Manager.

July 1, 2015 at 6:46 AM  
Blogger Chris Dugan said...

Anon 6:46, you got the title wrong. There is no such thing as an assistant general manager.

http://www.washingtonwildthings.com/information/directory/index

July 1, 2015 at 9:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I don't check the Wild Things website every day BUT, the last time I checked, before the start of the 2015 season, Steve Z was listed as Assistant General Manager.
No matter what you, or they, want to call him, he is a complete failure at it.

July 2, 2015 at 5:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anon 6:46, you got the title wrong. There is no such thing as an assistant general manager."

A Rose (pun intended) by any other name, or title, is still spelled Zavacky and it stinks.

July 2, 2015 at 5:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure seems like somebody is an incompetent ex-WT employee who must have been fired by Zavacky.

July 2, 2015 at 12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well, I don't check the Wild Things website every day BUT, the last time I checked, before the start of the 2015 season, Steve Z was listed as Assistant General Manager.
No matter what you, or they, want to call him, he is a complete failure at it.
..............................................................................
Steve and I have never gotten along all that well BUT, I don't think it's fair to take these sort of cheap shots at the man without at least having the b**ls to identify yourself. So, until you can muster up some manhood, don't shoot off your mouth.
Ima Fraid

July 3, 2015 at 7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you met Steve? That's exactly how he operates. He is first to criticize and last to take responsibility.

If the team was winning, you would be hearing about it from him that he picked a great team.

They're losing so it's not his problem.

I could sign my name but anyone who knows him realizes this. So it's not like I'm telling some huge secret here.

July 6, 2015 at 7:12 AM  
Blogger Chris Dugan said...

But you still don't have the backbone to put your name to such a comment. It's easy to play Keyboard Cowboy and criticize when you're sitting in your mother's basement hiding behind an Anonymous handle.

July 6, 2015 at 9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Chris and Ima Fraid. (I can't believe I just wrote that!) The weak ownership is to blame for everything that goes on. Steve is wrong more that he is right and for some reason, he has a huge ego but, he's really not a bad guy. Maybe when CONSOL Energy Park goes dark, the Keyboard Cowboy can at least pick up the cheese curls and empty Mr. Pibb cans from his mother's basement floor.

July 6, 2015 at 10:28 AM  

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