Saturday, April 11, 2009

Every pitch counts


Once you get past the payroll disparity at the major-league level and the steroids use, the biggest change in baseball over the last 15-20 years has been pitch counts. They're everywhere. The major leagues, minor leagues, colleges, high schools, youth leagues. Even Frontier League teams put pitchers on pitch counts.

With the next shoulder or elbow injury potentially an awkward pitch away, teams have become diligent about safeguarding their young assets, er, pitchers. Some people - minor-league personnel directors and major-league general managers in particular - love pitch counts. Others believe they do more harm than good, often slowing a pitcher's development.

Why do I bring this up?

The dreaded pitch count came into play Friday night in a Class AA Eastern League game between the Altoona Curve (Pirates) and Erie SeaWolves (Tigers). Altoona pitcher Jared Hughes, a 6-7 right-hander with a 19-26 career record in the minors, had a no-hitter going in the bottom of the seventh inning of his first outing of the season. He had issued only one walk. The game was tied 0-0.

Hughes was in complete control, working the best game of his pro career. But he reached his pitch count. At this point in the season, even after a month of spring training, the thinking is pitchers haven't built up enough stamina to work deep into games.

Hughes was replaced by reliever Shawn Nottingham. The first pitch Nottingham threw was ripped into right field to break up the Curve's no-hit bid. It was followed by a walk and two-run triple. Erie won 2-0.

The easy thing would have been to let Hughes finish the game, or at least stay in until Erie got a hit. After all, Hughes earned it. It was his game, right? Why shouldn't Curve manager Matt Walbeck leave Hughes in? Who knows, he might have a nice memory to look back on when his career ends.

But in baseball these days, a rule (even an unwritten one) is a rule. If Hughes was throwing a perfect game, it wouldn't have changed what Walbeck was thinking. It was time to take Hughes out of the game.

How many times have we seen a Frontier League game in which a pitcher is in complete control but taken out after four, five or six innings because of pitch count, then the bullpen blows the lead? Too many to count.

If you want to get former Washington High School athletic director and minor-league pitcher Bob Wagner fired up, just mention pitch counts. You'll need to free-up the next two hours because that's how it will take for Wagner to finish his rant against pitch counts.

Those who believe in pitch counts have their reasons. Some tell the story of Cleveland Indians closer Kerry Wood. In high school, Wood pitched for Grand Prairie during the Texas State Playoffs. On the day Grand Prairie won the state title, Wood pitched all seven innings in the first game of a doubleheader and, after a 30-minute break, pitched the first two innings of the second game. His pitch count for the day was a staggering 175.

Sure, Grand Prairie won the title, but at what cost? Less than four years later, Wood had ligament damage in his elbow. Then shoulder problems. Who knows if those problems are related to pitching in high school, but the Chicago Cubs were so disturbed by Wood's pitch counts that they practically shut him down after drafting him.

West Virginia was one of the first states to put innings limits on its high school pitchers. That move was the result of Don Robinson, who would go on to an injury-plagued career with the Pirates, pitching all but (I think) two of his high school team's games one season. Pennsylvania went to innings limits after the 1983 season, when California High School pitcher Brian Zanardelli posted a 14-3 record (think about that, a high school pitcher having 17 decisions in one season). Zanardelli also had injuries derail his career at a young age.

Not everybody likes pitch counts. Longtime major-league pitching coach Leo Mazzone once said of pitch counts "I don't want to see them. My eyes are gonna tell me more than any (expletive) number."

Pitching greats Bob Feller, Don Sutton and Tom Seaver each has said young pitchers do not throw enough these days because of pitch counts and five-man rotations. Supporters of eliminating pitch counts often mention 22-year-old Greg Maddux throwing 167 pitches in a game for the Chicago Cubs, and the 241-pitch game by Nolan Ryan during his days with the California Angels. Both Maddux and Ryan had long careers.

The divisive issue of pitch counts, whether they are good or bad, are here to stay. You'll see pitchers removed at odd times this year, even if they're throwing a no-hitter.

You can count on it.

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23 Comments:

Anonymous Thriftyone said...

I wonder how safe Ross's job is now.
It appears John Switek was Ross's Godfather.
Has the Frontier League ever had a manager and general manager as one job?
This would be a good cost savings and perhaps the parking could be lowered or even made free with the cost cutting moves made by Frani!

April 12, 2009 at 4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, Grand Prairie DIDN'T win that state title with Kerry Wood.

April 13, 2009 at 6:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typically, from what I understand, a minor league general manager's job is totally different than what you see from a GM on a major league team. The minor league GM oversees the day-to-day operations of the club and park, from tickets to concessions to stadium operations. They usually have no involvement in the on-field baseball product. Looking around the FL, it seems Washington is one of the few exceptions to this process.

April 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not this year.

April 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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April 14, 2009 at 3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jamal you are ridiculous

john

April 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal you really dont hide how uneducated you are do you? If you would look at the facts, the % of african american baseball players in the US has been dropping for awhile now and is the lowest its been in 20 years, it went from 17% of MLB players in the early 90's to now fewer than 8% today (if you followed baseball at all you would know this), most of the reason is that other sports have been rising in popularity while baseball has been in a funk (athletes realize they can make more money playing other sports). Furthermore the Commissioner has already recognized this and the MLB has already started to sponsor youth camps in intercity communities to help raise interest in baseball among african americans from a young age. Its not that the WT's or any team for that matter is being racist to players, the talent just isn't out there. (once again if you would get your butt off the couch and learn something you would know this)

so instead of blaming race on your short comings, maybe you should take a step back, look in the mirror and realize that your just an ignorant SOB that throws an attitude at everyone you meet, and thats why you aren't a success in life,... you spend too much time on this blog blaming the people of washington and the WT's for being racist when you in fact are holding yourself back by being so idiotic.

Mike

P.S. this is a baseball blog jamal, argue with me about the subject of blog, not about race cause i've already educated you enough on that topic

April 14, 2009 at 9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal,

What in your mind do the WWT need to do? Last time I checked, it doesn't matter what your skin color is to attend a ball game. So what's the problem? You really think that if the WWTs have a few african american ball players on the team that would attract a different crowd? Would love to know your thoughts.

Shawn

April 14, 2009 at 9:45 PM  
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April 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the biggest problems at Falconi is the lack of respect for the hispanic community.
They do nothing special to get the hispancis to come to field – nothing at all. There are no hispanic faces on the team and nobody can tell me that there are not enough hispanic guys that want to play ball at this place.

If there were some hispanic players for the hispanic kids to root for then just think how nice that would be for them. They could be just like your kids and have a good time to. I don’t think the wild things want hispanics at Falconi field – period.

Joaquin Andujar

April 15, 2009 at 3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal,

Just so you know, I voted for Obama. And I'm african american. I've been to many WWT games. Like a previous poster stated about the decline of african american ball players, they're not interested in the game anymore. I don't remember things changing to much because Patrick Sadler was on the team. Plus he's a home town player.

Shawn

April 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey "Joaquin"
That is one of the most humorous post I've ever seen on thid blog. I'm still laughing.
I don't think that deep thinker Jamal is going to laugh though!!
I hope he doesn't turn your name over to Barack!!
Alan

April 15, 2009 at 6:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the biggest problems at Falconi is the lack of respect for the one-legged community.
They do nothing special to get the one-legs to come to field – nothing at all. There are no one-legs on the team and nobody can tell me that there are not enough one-legged guys that want to play ball at this place.

If there were some one-legged players for the one-leg kids to root for then just think how nice that would be for them. They could be just like your kids and have a good time to. I don’t think the wild things want people with one leg at Falconi field – period.

Hopalong Cassidy

April 15, 2009 at 8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal,
If you consider Barack a "black" man, you are sadly mistaken! He's nothing near that and has not done a single thing to help the "black" community over the "white" community. Barack and Carlton Banks are about as close to Tiger Woods as Donald Trump is Archie Bunker. Let it go. I doubt you are even black, you are just stirring the pot on this blog. Probably a sad WWT Ticket Sales Rep who can't sell any tickets to the poor uneducated public until you offer a free bobblehead on individual ticket/open house day!

April 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you say CONDOR CASH!!!
How about BOBBY BENJAMIN!!!
And PATRICK SADLER!!!
or GREG JELKS!!!

Eat it JAMAL!!!

April 15, 2009 at 8:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopalong Cassidy, ah hahahahaha,....dude thats great

April 15, 2009 at 8:26 PM  
Anonymous Thirftyone said...

$4.00 seats for seniors, $3.00 parking. It costs almost as much to park you car as your rectum at Wild Things Games.
I think the Wild Things management (Frani) needs to apply for some stimulus money to give free parking to seniors. Perhaps Jamal with his ties could help.

April 16, 2009 at 5:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its $3, seriously people get over it, you probably enough change throughout your car to cover $3

April 16, 2009 at 5:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopalong - that is the greatest post I've ever seen on this blog.

If you had season tickets, you can buy your whole year of parking for only $2 a game. Maybe that will help stimulate you

April 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the biggest problems at Falconi is the lack of respect for the blind & deaf community.
They do nothing special to get the blind or deaf to come to field – nothing at all. There are no blind or deaf faces on the team and nobody can tell me that there are not enough blind or deaf guys that want to play ball at this place.

If there were some blind or deaf players for the blind or deaf kids to root for then just think how nice that would be for them. They could be just like your kids and have a good time to. I don’t think the wild things want blind or deaf people at Falconi field – period.

Helen Keller

April 16, 2009 at 9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"One of the biggest problems at Falconi is the lack of respect for the ... deaf community."

At least they don't have to hear Bill DiFabio....

April 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above comment has to be the "Comment of the Year" on this blog.

April 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much does Bill DeFabio pay the Wild Things to be the PA announcer?
He has developed a new currency, the EGO BUCKS.

April 16, 2009 at 7:13 PM  

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