Monday, December 15, 2008

Mark of discipline


The Wild Things announced Monday afternoon that Mark Mason will be their manager for 2009, replacing Greg Jelks, who had a one-year stint. The announcement came at a low-key press conference held in the Wild Things' clubhouse.

I was stunned that one of the the first two questions asked - and it wasn't by me - was about readers of this blog being upset with some of the on-field antics of players last year and how would Mason handle such things. Here is Mason's response:

"I will discipline that. I disciplined that in Chillicothe. We won't have any part of that. ... I tell my players that I'm not going to babysit you. I'm not afraid to make an example of anyone. I never had problems with any of my teams, though I did suspend two players while at Chillicothe when we were on a road trip. The were late. If I didn't suspend them, then it wouldn't have been fair for those guys who were sitting on that bus on time.

"That was embarrassing. The players know what I expect of them - play hard and be on time. They know where I stand."

Mason went on to tell the story of how a Chillicothe player, after making an out, threw his batting helmet off the bat rack. The helmet bounced back and hit Mason in the leg. Mason didn't immediately say anything to the player. He waited until the Paints took the field for the next inning and, just as the first batter was stepping into the box, Mason jumped out of the dugout, got the umpire's attention and called the helmet-throwing player off the field. Mason then sent out a substitute.

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84 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the advantages we have with Mark is that he will go home with his wife and kids and not go drinking with the players.
Discipline is something that has been missing since Isom was the manager.
I wonder if Marty Dunn will come along as a coach?
Good choice Ross!

December 16, 2008 at 4:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark Mason is as good of a guy as you can get in this town. He deserves an opportunity to manage and I am glad he was hired. If WT don't win though, people around here will surely blame him for the losses.

December 16, 2008 at 5:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark is great, but thriftyone is a little off the mark in terms of discipline. Jelks did discipline his players. He expected them to act like gentlemen and to respect not only the organization and the fans, but each other.

He did a great job. I'm sure he'll do well wherever he ends up.

December 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said “Jelks did discipline his players. He expected them to act like gentlemen and to respect not only the organization and the fans, but each other.”
What???? You must not have been watching the same Jelks that most of the rest of the fans saw.
I am extremely happy with this change. Things will almost certainly change for the better.
The Wild Things management supported Mr. Jelks during the season – BIG MISTAKE on their part.
They told me in a conversation with them that Mr. Jelks WOULD be back in 2009. Apparently they wisely changed their minds.
Ron Wilson

December 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To make this transition complete, I would like to see Jon Cahill obtain a position in the WT organization. He has youth on his side, and the knowledge to help Mark win a championship. I understand he applied for the manager's position, but was not selected. I believe Mr. Cahill will be a asset to the Wild Things. Sometimes, youth have the abilities to control youth, and this is what this team needs.

December 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will Cahill discipline them while they are out having beers together at night?

December 16, 2008 at 5:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does that really happen? I don't think so. I believe this is all blown out of porpotion. These players are adults, and know what is expected of them. It is no different from you or I leaving work, and going to a local watering hole for a few cold ones. Would our boss discipline us? If that is a problem, then a curfew needs to be in place. But who will poilice that? The host famalies? I doubt that. I have hosted a few players, and they have all benn well behaved, well mannered adults. Sutre there might be a few whom ruin it for the rest, but the majority of these kids are looking for one thing. To get into the big leagues, and they are playing there hearts out trying to succeed in that. Let's let them play.

December 16, 2008 at 5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I may not know as many of the players as some of you but I agree with the previous statement. Im sure there are some bad apples in the bunch but there are bad apples on every sports team I've ever been around. For the most part though, I think Ross does a pretty good job of fielding a respectful team. Just my thoughts though.

December 16, 2008 at 9:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course, Jack Murtha was right!
Biggoted, racist, rednecks.

Greg Jelks, while not the most personable bloke ever to wear a baseball uniform, tried to make order out of the previous chaos. And it was chaos.

I knew some of you would dump it all at his feet again.

Mark Mason's a great choice for a managerial position that wasn't vacant, at least not until just the other day.

December 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said…….
“These players are adults, and know what is expected of them.” And also said “the majority of these kids are looking for one thing. To get into the big leagues”. Well, Anonymous you called them “adults” and also called them “kids” which is it?
I submit that last years team was composed of adults that acted like kids. They, the players, were not able to distinguish between the two but most of the fans sure didn’t have any trouble figuring it out. The filth that spewed
from their mouths was both digesting and embarrassing. Some of the fans had no problem with that display. However, I sure would not want my wife to have to listen to that again next year. If it happened only a couple of times it could probably be overlooked, but it happened VERY frequently last year. If it was so easy to hear from our seats it was even easier to hear from the dugout. Mr. Jelks failed to address this, as well as other on-field situations.
I think Mr. Jelks earned his well deserved one-way ticket out of town!!
I can’t believe that the Wild Things could have been so silly as to even have CONSIDERED having him back for another year. The man has almost zero leadership qualities!
Ron Wilson

December 17, 2008 at 3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of whether or not you like Jelks...Jelks is far more strict with his players than Mason will ever be.

Mason is more of the Maz mentality -- I don't care what you do as long as you show up and play hard for me. Chillicothe is a much different town than Washington and many things that went on there would be much more noticeable in Washington.

The truth is -- as long as they win no one will really say anything. Jelks ran "bad guys" off the team -- Mason has a reputation for giving "bad guys" second, and third chances. I don't mean this in a negative way -- just stating the facts. Mason is more laid back than Jelks, and more laid back then Maz. If you expecting him to come in and "lay down the law" then your in for a shock. Now will the organization crack down and fine guys for abusive language etc.? Possibly. Will Ross run off some of the most obvious offenders. Yes.

December 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Of course, Jack Murtha was right! Biggoted, racist, rednecks.
Jack Murtha hasn’t been right about anything for over 30 years!
If he was correct in his stupid remarks then McCain would have won Pennsylvania. Not to mention the large number of blacks in government in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Also, do you believe that our Marines are cold blooded murderers? GET REAL! Murtha has a paper head – end of story!
You should NOT try to interject you flawed logic into the Wild Things choice for manager.

Ron Wilson

December 18, 2008 at 6:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the record, Wilson, McCain WON Washington County, and was the first Republican to do so since Nixon.

This is a redneck, racist area and the treatment of Jelks, by many in the area, is a direct result thereof.

Murtha's general positions aren't the subject about which I wrote. His statement about our racist underbelly is. And he is right.

December 18, 2008 at 7:46 AM  
Blogger Brant said...

I'm not going to defend Jelks' managerial skills or his handling of his players. I don't have enough information to offer an opinion on that either way. But anyone who read this blog last year knows that there was an element of racism in people's dislike for Jelks. Not everyone, but some.

December 18, 2008 at 10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gutless Anonymous said, in part “For the record, Wilson, McCain WON Washington County

No kidding, I suppose you think I didn’t know that. Mr. Murtha said this was a racist ‘area’ not just Washington County. I suppose you think the Wild Things are a racist organization as well.
It’s time for you to get your head out of wherever you have it that keeps you from seeing things as they really are, NOT as you may think they are.
Ron Wilson

BTW: I would have the courtesy to call you by your proper name if you had the guts to stop hiding behind your computer and let everybody whom your are. Stop being such a wimp!!

December 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM  
Blogger Brant said...

I never hide behind my computer (I'm too fat), and while I think Murtha, as usual, could have chosen his words better, he is correct that this area seems to have more than its share of racists. And that was clearly on display in some posts to this blog last year.

December 18, 2008 at 10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Ron on at least 2 points.
First,.Murtha is, at the very best, senile. If we were to add 200 points to his IQ, he would still be 300 points in the hole.

2. There is always a person out there that tries to inject race into any situation. It seems that when a person of color is involved in anything controversial it appears that this person must be hailed as a success story. If one doesn’t feel that way, he is then branded as being “racist” This is just absurd! There was only one thing considered here as far as I can tell - Jelks screwed up and now he is gone - simple as that! I won’t miss him for a minute. If Mason screws up and is fired, I won’t miss him either!

December 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still no Wild Thing player signings on the Frontier League site. What are they waiting on?
We have a new manager. I would have thought some of the better Chillicothe players still age eligible would have been signed by now.

December 18, 2008 at 4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The picture of Mark Mason with this blog listing looks like a perfect Western Pennsylvania Redneck.

December 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me start by saying that I'm a personnel friend of Greg Jelks, and I'm tired of reading what you people think you know. Greg never drank with his players, they weren't even allowed in the same bar, unlike every other manager that has been in Washington. And for Mr. Wilson let's start off by saying that Greg's little toe knows more about baseball than you will ever know!! Greg coaches baseball year round, played baseball until the age of 40 where he played in the 2000 olympics as a player-coach for Australia and was the batting coach for the 2006 Australian World Classic Team, so somebody thinks he knows how to coach. As far as discipline, you can't discipline an adult who has nothing on his mind except how drunk he's getting that night or where he's going to drink. Greg tried to discipline the players thats why most of them didn't want to play for him and thats the reason for last seasons record, a lack luster performance by the players, not the coach!! And as far as Mason as manager,how do you hire a manager that works for a player at his baseball academy, there's going to be a whole lot of discipline there with a player as his boss!!! Greg had a .500 season last year what was Mason's win percentage last season! Unlike most of you I'm going to sign my name at the bottom of this, because I know more about what went on with that team last year than any of you will ever know. Greg's better-off not having to deal with all of you or the terrible attitudes he had to deal with last year!!!He's coaching right now for the Perth Heat, and I'm sure he'll find another job coaching somewhere else!!! sincerely, Bill Nelson

December 18, 2008 at 6:47 PM  
Blogger Chris Dugan said...

Chillicothe's players have been transferred to the Lake Erie team. The exceptions are Travis Garcia (traded to the Atlantic League's Southern Maryland team), Adrian Cantu (granted release) and Joe Brown (aged out). There might have been one more guy who was dropped from the roster. I don't have one in front of me to check. Lake Erie already has signed Drew Saylor and Ryan Flanigan.

December 18, 2008 at 6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Washington never usually signs players until after January 1. Chillicothe's player are all now apart of the new Lake Erie team. It will be up to Mazz if those players will stay or go. As far as Mazz trying to get current Wild Thing players, it is not possible. The WT have the rights to all current players to resign them for 2009. Besides the only WT players that played for Mazz that are any good are Sidick and Grandstrand.....and I highly doubt they're going anywhere!!! The rest of the former Mazz WT players, if there are any left on the WT, can go!

December 18, 2008 at 6:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill ‘I know it all better than you’ Nelson said,
“And for Mr. Wilson let's start off by saying that Greg's little toe knows more about baseball than you will ever know!! “

Mr. Nelson, you may probably be correct in your statement but, since you don’t know me, you may also be incorrect. Your own words in accessing my knowledge without actually knowing me shows that YOU are a prejudiced individual – how sad for you. How much I do, or don’t know isn’t the issue. Judging from your response, you don’t appear to know any more than I!

Sports, is a ‘performance’ based profession and Mr. Jelks demonstrated very clearly that he could NOT handle the task that was presented during the 2008 season! Mr. Jelks projected a losing image by the way he presented himself to the average fan. He would come out of the clubhouse looking as though he wished he were somewhere else. He appeared to be doing some sort of imitation of Bill Slowsky. Whether it is right, or wrong, the truth is that perception IS reality. His act did not set well with many fans. Since they are the ones that pay to watch the game their input also should be considered.

The reality is this; no matter what Mr. Jelks qualifications may be, he failed to produce. He alienated many fans with the attitude he projected. Whether this was justified, or not, that’s the way it was. No matter how much baseball knowledge was on his “little toe” he apparently was unable to extract from there. Perhaps if he could have do so he would have been able to produce some results.

I hope Mr. Jelks can find employment next year where he won’t be expected to produce a winning team
And he can keep all his baseball knowledge securely locked up in his “little toe” and not have to be bothered trying to find it. I wonder if that is the left or right foot. Mr. Jelks apparently could not figure that out either!

Ron Wilson

December 20, 2008 at 10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Wilson I don't need to know you to know that you are one of those people who complain about everything and know nothing. Sports is a perfomanced based profession, but whose performance was lacking. You like most people think the team is doing bad so fire the coach, when he can teach them everything he knows but can't make them perform. I've been reading your rediculous comments for a year now!! I judge a person on who they are not their appearance,and as for you, you have said it was based on the way he looked coming out of the clubhouse. So doesn't that make you one of those prejudiced red-necks that everybody has been talking about, judging someone on their appearance rather than who they are!! I can say this about Greg, he's the only WT manager that I know of that spent time with a WYB team before the season started and came to their games when he had a chance and I have been involved with WYB for along time. So there you go again Mr. Wilson assuming that I know nothing about baseball when unfortunately for you I've been either playing or coaching baseball for 33 years. Everybody that I know that actually knows Greg loves him, he is a great person inside and outside the ballpark. The problem with people like you is you think your opinion matters, just becuase you buy a ticket you don't purchase the right for your opinion to matter. I've met most of the WT coaches over the years and Gregs the only one that I really wanted to become friends with , he care about what he does and tries to help all who truely loves the sport he does!! And I'm wondering Mr. Wilson, if Mason has a losing season will you be as negative towards him as you are to Greg, or will it be alright because he's a good ol' boy!!! Bill Nelson

December 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Ron Wilson's comment 2 above, you can substitute "players" for "Jelks" and it wouldn't be inaccurate. hence:

Sports, is a ‘performance’ based profession and the players demonstrated very clearly that they could NOT handle the task that was presented during the 2008 season! The players projected a losing image by the way they presented themselves to the average fan. They would come out of the clubhouse looking as though he wished he were somewhere else.

Jelks was the scapegoat for an team lacking in talent.

December 20, 2008 at 3:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Nelson,
After reading your reply I must admit your are 100% right. Just about everyone that doesn't agree with your conclusions can't possibly have a valid point. How dumb of me not to see that!
I'm sooooo sorry that I dare have a viewpoint that you don't think I should have.
I seems you are a member of the newley formed 'thought police'
No matter what you say the bottom line is - Greg Jelks is gone and I'm happy about that! Am I now under arrest by the 'thought police'?
I'd better go into hiding 'cause we will see a lot of that during the next four years!
Ron Wilson

December 20, 2008 at 4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberalism is a mental disease for which there is no known cure!!

December 20, 2008 at 5:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, what’s the point to this debate?
If Jelks was as bad as Wilson thinks, he probably would have been fired half way through the season.
If Jelks were a good as Nelson seems to think, than most major league managers would be worried sick about him taking their jobs. Fat chance of that. Let’s not forget we are talking about the Frontier League here. Nobody is going anywhere.
Final Score: Rednecks 1 Other Guys 0 WHO CARES!

December 20, 2008 at 5:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Wilson with you last statement "cause we will see alot of it in the next four years" lets everybody see that you are that racist red-neck.and to anonymous I didn't say he should be in the major leagues, what i am expressing is my dislike of everybody saying how bad he is without even knowing him. By the the way he has been contacted by three affiliated teams this year!! Bill Nelson

December 20, 2008 at 6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suggest that Jelks go to one of those teams and stink up some other league!

December 20, 2008 at 7:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now let's see here Bill.
Ron is a racist red neck because he, along with millions of others, is concerned about his freedom of speech.
What does that make you other than then a person that plays the race card.
I read all the post and saw NO reference to Jelks race.
Jelks would not mak a pimple on a real managers butt.
Jerry

December 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Nelson,
I will not respond to any more of your remarks. You seem to think that name calling is the best way to make your point. If you see a racist behind every tree, that is a cross you will have to bear.
I’m sure you have by now contacted the Wild Things and expressed your feelings to them.
It’s fairly obvious to me that IF, as you claim, you know Mr. Jelks’ then it seems he isn’t too fussy about the people he feels are his friends. I somehow have a hard time feeling he REALLY counts you as a dear friend.
I don’t feel the need to defend myself against your name calling and I will not. If you feel that I am what you called me – SO BE IT!! When you have nothing more left in your arsenal of words except name calling, I will not step into that gutter with you.
God Bless You, Bill
Have a great Christmas.
Ron Wilson

December 20, 2008 at 7:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jerry, sorry you cannot read between the lines and pick out a racist and sorry that it would be hard for me to play the race card since I am white male. One of my good friends I think stated it best when he said, "going to the wildthings is like going to the county fair with a baseball game going on" and most of you describe that comment to the tee!!!!!! Bill Nelson

December 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr.Wilson, Greg and myself talk every couple of days,and if you don't won't people to judge you then you should watch how you express your opinion, and not sound like you dislike somebody for the way they look and not how they perform. And I remember the WT making the playoffs with a worse record than last year and nobody complaining. AS for us we are done and God bless you too Ron!! Bill Nelson

December 20, 2008 at 7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conservatism is dead. Get over it.

And if Bill does talk with Jelks every couple of days, then he must have one whopper of a phone bill with all those calls to Australia.

December 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go Ron, still yanking some chains eh! You good ol' Redneck, or is that racist? Naw, I know you don't like horses!
You sure had that Nelson guy jumpin - made a jackass of himself. Those bleeding heart types call everybody some sort of name. That guy is just a race-baiter! Probably thinks he will get - never mind.
Lloyd A

December 21, 2008 at 8:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are the facts as I know it. Ron is an old man that has nothing better to do then complain about everything. He must be racist since his comment about the president elect. As far as the Nelson's they are very close friends with Greg especially their 8 year old son. They are also very close to Phil Butch as they went to Atlanta to visit him while he was at school. They must have gotten to know them better then anyone of you since they don't judge people on how they look. I personally know that they have talked to Greg ever since he has went back to Australia it's called a international calling card that you can buy a any store. The problem that you have his that Mr. Nelson didn't agree with the people that didn't like Greg so they call him a liar and judge him without knowing him as you all did with Greg. I have no doubt that when Mason losses and he will you will have nothing but bad things to say to him too. And by the way Greg is in a better place since he is coaching on the Austarlian world baseball classic in March.

Ross since you claim to know Ross the snake so well ask him about the relationship that the Nelson's have with Greg since he knows all about it.

December 21, 2008 at 2:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will you, Nelson, please explain to us unwashed why you seem to feel the Greg Jelks was, or may have been, a victim of racism? We are now living in a veritable paradise and it only promises to get better when
Mr. Obama occupies the White House.
You are now living in a perfect world where a person of color is equal to, but not better off, than the average Caucasian person. Equality is a wonderful thing and a noble goal for us all. However, it does bring with it a certain responsibility. It requires that no one group of people receives, nor should they expect, ANY sort of preferential treatment. The election of Mr. Obama proves that this Republic is beyond anything that can, or should be, considered as racism.
Mr. Jelks apparently did not meet his job requirements as defined by his employer so, his contract was not extended or renewed. Why is that so difficult to understand? Pennsylvania is a place where an employee serves “at the will” of the employer. Mr. Jelks is no longer employed probably because the Wild Things wanted to make a change – not due to racism. That would be blatantly illegal. I doubt if they would do such a thing.
Since we now live in this perfect new world, so called ‘minorities’ now have to accept the downside to equality. In short, do your job as well as anybody else or, pay the price all others do – LOSE YOUR JOB!
No more excuses, no more whining. We are all equal now and that is a good thing! Deal with it Mr. Jelks!
Please Mr. Nelson stop your accusations and try getting real.

December 21, 2008 at 2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad the Wild Things didn't hire Nelson or Wilson as manager. Now that would be a hoot to watch.

December 21, 2008 at 3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said

Here are the facts as I know it. Ron is an old man that has nothing better to do then complain about everything. He must be racist since his comment about the president elect. As far as the Nelson's they.......


Anonymous,
Thanks so much for your anaylsis. Not too bad for a person that doesn't know me. If you do know me don't be such a coward and identify yourself.
You are correct, I AM indeed an old man with plenty to do. My first preference is to insure that you maintain a healty blood pressure. With that in mind,I won't dignify your remarks with a reply. I need not defend myself against such dribble.You almost had me going for a minute because I thought you were going to call me a 'liberal'. Now, that would have made me angry!
Thanks for having the decency not to do that!
Ron Wilson

BTW: I really am not interested in who Mr. Nelson knows, how well they know them, who's children play with whom, or where they travel to visit them. All that stuff has nothing to do with Mr. Jelks departure. As far as I know Phil Butch is not involved in this discussion so why bring his name up?

December 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guy's are all nuts. I know Ron Wilson very well, a racist he is NOT! Geez just because he has a point of view and puts his name on his post is no reason for a few of you to accuse him of things that are not true.
Ron is playing you like a juke box and you just keep on dropping more money in to keep it going. About 80 per cent of what he writes is to get a rise out of you and you continue to bite.
I can honestly tell you one thing that you can take to the bank. If you ever are in need Ron is the kind of person that you can depend to give you a hand.
Lloyd A

December 21, 2008 at 5:06 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

To one of the previous posters who suggested that the election marked the end of racism in America, all I can say is, what a joke. I'd venture to say there are literally millions of racists in the country, including a goodly number right here in Southwestern Pennsylvania. I'm not even suggesting that racism had anything at all to do with Jelks' dismissal, but no one can deny that racism directed toward Jelks was very evident in some of the postings on this very blog throughout last season. It's a fact.

December 21, 2008 at 6:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought that the discussion was limited to the Jelks situation. Isn't there some other place to discuss the broader issue of raceism in America?
Joe

December 21, 2008 at 6:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch out Brant there is one everywhere you look. Could be almost every place you look. People like you see what they WANT to see!
AA

December 21, 2008 at 6:39 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

Just keep on ignoring reality.

December 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brandt Said,

Just keep on ignoring reality.

Keep on seeing things that are not there. Perhaps you just need more sleep.

December 22, 2008 at 10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reading some of the remarks Mr. Nelson, Brant, and Anonymous have placed here leads me to this conclusion.
They don’t mind you having an opinion as long as it is the same as theirs. If you don’t agree with what they say you are branded by some name calling that has no basis in fact.
Sort of sounds like the way things started in a certain European country back in the 1930’s. Instead of staying on topic, an individual is subjected to unfounded accusations that are demeaning. In this way these people try to divert attention to some imaginary issue – in this case, racism! Of course, most clear thinking people know that one of the most commonly used tactics of liberals is - character assassination! As has been demonstrated on this blog, they have this weapon loaded and are not a bit hesitant to use it. To call a person a “racist” is supposed to put a stigma on them and destroy their credibility.. It is akin to asking” When did you stop beating your wife”? The best way to counter this despicable tactic is to just ignore it.
BTW Mr. Nelson, purposely damaging a person’s reputation with wild speculation can get one into a ton of trouble. If you can’t actually prove a person a “racist” then you should be a little more careful with your words. I carefully read what this person stated in his remarks and, IMHO, did not see anything that would lead you to reach your opinion. Saying that a person projects a certain type of image is not “racist”. This person did not use any racial epitaph or make any reference to race at all. I hope the guy sues you.
Just because a friend of yours lost his job, for whatever reason, does not warrant the name calling you have resorted to. It does however, verify that you have nothing more intelligent left to say. You very poorly represent Greg Jelks, if I were he, I would be embarrassed. Don’t you think Mr. Jelks has the intelligence to present his own case? I do! I also note that a person in the Wild Things office is now being refereed to as a “snake” by Anonymous – how charming! The assault against our right to express ones opinions, in a free market place of ideas, has begun! Now, if you want to agree with a certain agenda that will be okay. Heaven forbid you voice a dissenting viewpoint, the PC police will probably be knocking at you door. I wonder if they will be wearing brown shirts?
Amy M.

December 22, 2008 at 11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK. Here's my two cents worth of input into this whatever you want to call it. The Wild Things made a decision. They hired Mr. Mason as there coach. I believe that is a smart move on there part. Mr. Mason knows the people here, he knows what the owners want, he knows the fans. Mr. Jelks is in another part of the world, and I agree with the other person who said how can he possibly be looking at prospective players. I can't for the life of me understand how the hiring of Mr. Mason has created such a large amount of name calling, biggoted, racist BS. Can we let Mr. Mason do his job, and hopefully coach a winning team this year.

I believe that Mr Dugan didn't post this blog for everyone to personally attack each and every article that one writes.

Maybe Mr. Dugan should step in and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

December 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Mr. Nelson is such a good friend of Greg Jelks, I would think that he should be very happy for Greg now that he is away from all these Redneck racist in Washington. There just EVERYWHERE - I thought I saw one on the way home from work!
The truth is that this Nelson guy, along with Brandt, and Anonymous are just cyber-bullies. Nothing more - nothing less.
Lloyd A

December 22, 2008 at 5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, the Messiah hasn’t even taken office yet! The next four years years should be fun.
Every time some pundit says even one wrong word, he will automatically be a RACIST!!!

December 22, 2008 at 5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I AM a BIG racist. I went to The Meadows at least 20 times last year.
Max

December 22, 2008 at 5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lesson for the Wild Things.
If you hire a person of color you will be hailed as wonderful progressive organization.
If that person doesn’t produce, you may not replace that person without being branded as Racist and/or ‘snakes’.
You see, in today’s climate we are ALL equal. Except, some people are more equal than others. Some people are expected to show up and produce something of value for their employer, others feel they just need to show up – forget the produce part!
The liberals want every one to think that a person has a RIGHT to a job. The real fact is, NOBODY has a RIGHT to ANY job.
The other side of the coin is; if you had not hired this person, you would still have been branded be a “racist organization”.
Circle the wagons – it’s going to be a rough ride.

December 22, 2008 at 6:15 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

I guess it's impossible to have a simple disagreement with some of you people without being accused of trying to oppress you in some sort of neo-Nazi plot. There's no bullying involved here. It's a dicussion, and it's not necessary for everyone to agree. That's what makes it interesting. To be clear, I have never suggested that Mr. Jelks, whom I have never met, was fired because he is black. My only points are that there were those on this blog last year who clearly had problems with having a black man as the head of the team, and that we still have a long way to go in the area of race relations. It also seems like some people are still really, really angry about how the recent presidential election turned out. It's been fun chatting with you all, but I'll leave you now to obsess amongst yourselves over a minor-minor-minor league baseball team. And I sincerely wish you all the happiest of holiday seasons. Perhaps we'll all get along a little better in the new year.

December 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My problem isn't excatly that they didn't renew Mr. Jelks contract it is the way that he was treated. Ross had been emailing Greg from the time he had left telling him they were renewing his contract. Even 2 weeks prior to them hiring Mason they told him they were sending his contract to sign. They lead him to believe he had a job and then didn't have the guts to tell him they were going in a different direction. Ross would avoid phone calls because he didn't have the back bone to tell Jelks. Ross did not act professional at all. The correct way to do it was just to tell him they weren't renewing his contract not to keep telling him that they were. What they did was very shady and any future managers should keep that in mind because if they do it once they will do it again. In the end this job means something to whom ever gets it and when you do that to someone you are messing with their lively hood. Ross should have been man enough to Tell Greg he changed his mind so he could have had more time to get another job.

December 23, 2008 at 9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Based on the information in his/her comment, the previous Anonymous must be either a member of the Wild Things' organziation/front office, a close friend of Jelks or someone who has no knowledge of what they're talking about and just like to spread lies. If it's the former, then the Wild Things have some serious issues with their employees. If it's the latter, we see how dangerous these "anonymous" message boards can be.

December 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is 100% true. Ask Ross about it. There are emails to prove that is the truth and also Ross told me him self that he told Gregg he was emailing him the contract when I was at the office. Whats the problem the truth hurts

December 23, 2008 at 12:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The last couple of "anonymous" musings must be Nelson without the stones to put his name on it. If your are so good a friend to all at the Wils Things office why don't yoou 'man up' and let them, and us know exactly who you are? Afraid they won't let you in the door again?
Max

December 23, 2008 at 3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see Brandt doesn't says he won't post again, well who cares? He had nothing of value to say at all.
Typical of liberals, he said there was an element of rasicm in last years blog.
Brandt, you fit the liberal mold like a glove. First, you make unfounded charges, them you run and hide behind some imaginary bush. Watch out - there might be a racist redneck in that very same bush!
Your so full of yourself that you might just explode!
Lloyd A

December 23, 2008 at 3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: Amy’s post

I am the one that was called a “racist” by Mr. Nelson

I have no problem with what he said because I KNOW that it is not true. Even if I could, I would not take any action against him because I believe in freedom of speech. It’s like this Amy, to the left leaners (liberals), "freedom of speech" means the freedom to accept their agenda or, at best, be ostracized - it is a politically correct one way street, at least for them. If Mr. Nelson feels better because the tried to damage my reputation – so be it! I am outspoken and I am not at all worried by ‘taking the heat’. It’s always hot in the furnace. I gave eight years of my life to military service to help preserve our basic freedoms. That does NOT mean that I have any more rights than those that have chosen to let others defend their freedom.
Some are perfectly content to “let Joe do it! I have no quarrel with that if that is want they want to do.

I know his accusations are untrue because I owe my very life to a man – he just happened to be black. This man freely gave me help when he could have just as easily left me. He literally carried me to safety when I was critically injured. Without this mans actions I, with absolutely no doubt, would not be alive today. For the record, this mans actions also cost him his life. So, with me it is not a matter of race. It IS however, a matter of ALL persons having the right to conduct their business in any way they want so long as it is within the law. I, along with my Black Hero, did not wish the Nation to fall into the hands of the ‘socialist’ leaning liberals that are about to assume control of our Nation.

So, it’s not important, except perhaps to Mr. Nelson, what he thinks. It is even less important to me what he says about me on this blog. I have the most powerful weapon the Lord has ever given us – THE TRUTH!!
Ron Wilson

December 23, 2008 at 5:13 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

Wow, Lloyd, you're one angry guy. Somebody told me I should check in here to see your attack on me. I won't respond in kind. Since I never attacked you or made any accusation in your direction originally, I'll just continue to take the high road. If being a liberal means that someone recognizes racism and draws attention to it in the hope that the issue can be discussed, I guess I would be proud to be called a liberal. If you were reading the blog regularly and saw no instances of racism in regard to Jelks, then I guess all I can say is that you can just continue living in your insular, head-in-the-sand world. Have a happy Kwanzaa, Lloyd.

December 23, 2008 at 6:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We would all like to have a Happy Kwanzaa - if it were a REAL holiday. It's just something made up by folks such as you!

December 23, 2008 at 6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conservatism is dead, thank God. Now if I could only say the same about this silly run of comments.

December 23, 2008 at 6:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine this - a liberal taking the high road. That's just not possible because their agenda won't fit on the high road.
Liberalism and conservatism are cyclical just as is about everything else including the weather, Al gore notwithstanding! Of course, he DID give us the Internet didn’t he? What a guy – another lying liberal. Goodness knows they are just about everywhere just as they were in the 1930’s. Libs always ignore history though! So, here we go again. The Brown Shirts are Coming!! If Obama doesn’t sell us all down the river first.
Max

December 23, 2008 at 6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
Conservatism is dead, thank God.


What is he talking about?
Liberals don't believe in God do they?
You all know what I mean, things like the killing of unborn children because they my be an 'inconvient'
burden of their nut job parents.

I think he meant to say something else like thank Obama.

Wonder how many Wild Things fans think abortion is Godly?

December 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

Nothing like mental illness coupled with hatred for the holidays. How heartwarming.

December 23, 2008 at 7:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

December 25, 2008 at 3:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does that mean Max?

December 26, 2008 at 8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are insane.This ia supposed to be about baseball.Not politics.Push your political agenda's someplace else,like Fox news.Remember this is about the Wildthings.

December 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Mr.C,
Wild Things not Wildthings!

December 26, 2008 at 10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those that don't know, BRANDT works for the O-R - the garbage wrapper for Washington County

December 27, 2008 at 5:55 AM  
Blogger Chris Dugan said...

For the above Anonymous: It's BRANT, not BRANDT, and he has a popular blog at the O-R site:

http://viewonthenews.blogspot.com/

and thanks for visting the O-R's Wild Things blog.

December 27, 2008 at 6:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Somebody done struck a nerve. Mustn't say anything bad about the Observer-Rag

December 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all let me tell you rednecks something. Bararck IS the new leader and it’s are turn after a couple hundred years. Now all of you bigots are going to pay the price for all the crap you did. Barack is not going to cut you NO slack. Its are turn. The Wildthings are guildy of being predigest. We are not comming to any more games.
The new Year is for us a new beginning.
Jamal

December 29, 2008 at 2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post Jamal.I can plainly see you are a well educated person.The McDonald's is lucky to have you as an employee.

December 29, 2008 at 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wild Things equal a non-equal opportunity employer.

December 29, 2008 at 6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Must have taken Jamal 36 years to complete grade school. Probably moved him ahead so he would not feel out of place.

December 29, 2008 at 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well done "Jamal", you only had to wait 4 hours for 2 fish to take the bait. Ah, Irony.

December 30, 2008 at 5:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal is nothing but an ingrate. After the Wild Things gave him his start in the business world he turns on them like the jerk he really is.
Don't worry Jamal, Barack will fill your pockets for you while the rest of us will just pay the taxes.
Hiring Jelks was the biggest mistake the WTs ever did. It did nothing but open Pandora's box.
Lloyd

December 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Final Score
White Racist 1 – Black Racist 0

Beginning third week of January, to keep this on topic, a hole new ball game.
Jamal

January 1, 2009 at 7:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What???? Speak English please.

January 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds clear enough to me. He means that after King Obama’s coronation on the 20th of January, the white people will become 3rd class citizens. In other words, he is saying there will be retribution for supposed wrongs exacted by the Wild Things against the black people of the area. What else could you possibly extract from a remark such as that?
Danny

January 2, 2009 at 10:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so glad to hear that mark mason is coming back to lead the wild things - i only hope that he does well - i understand that aaron l. aged out - would he come back to help coach? - also is there a chance to reclaim some of the past players - tom cochran comes to mind and i know from your website that he had a good year last year

January 4, 2009 at 8:01 PM  
Blogger Chris Dugan said...

No chance of Cochran returning. He's classified as a Veteran, so he would add to the roster problem the Wild Things already have. Cochran had a big year for Worcester in the Can-Am League last season. He led the league in wins (13-3 record) and was fifth in ERA (2.79).

January 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow thanks for the info= great for cochran = would have thought he would have been picked up by now - i know that he and maz were pretty tight -- and he was really friendly with the kid fans

January 9, 2009 at 7:48 PM  

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