Waterworld
Thoughts and observations from another waterlogged night at Consol Energy Park:
Keep this in mind when reading this post: The thunderstorm that hit Washington and Greene counties Saturday night forced the stoppage at halftime and cancellation of the ProGrass high school football all-star game in Waynesburg; the Wild Things and Traverse City Beach Bums finished their baseball game after a rain delay of nearly two hours.
Something obviously is wrong here. The weather was too bad for a football game to be resumed. On artificial turf.
Yet it wasn't too bad to resume a baseball game on a grass field that was already deluged with rain one night earlier.
If it was asinine for the Wild Things and Beach Bums to play Friday night, what do you call the decision to resume play Saturday? How about foolish? Or just plain stupid?
To recap, the game was stopped after the top of the sixth inning with Washington leading, 3-1. The tarp was put down moments before the strong thunderstorm hit the area. The game was official at this point. Had it been called, the Wild Things would have won a rain-shortened game.
After roughly an hour passed, and with the outfield now a quagmire, Matt Neador (crew chief of the umpires) decided to resume play. There was some confusion as to whether or not Neader first banged the game and then changed his mind or not.
It was Neader's call at this point. Once the game's first pitch is thrown, the decision to stop or resume a game is up to the umpires.
Neader decided to resume play at 10:30 p.m. There was no doubt Washington manager Greg Jelks wanted the game to be called and put in the books. Traverse City manager Jon Cahill, of course, wanted play to resume. Both pleaded their cases. Cahill made a good point that the field had more standing water in the outfield Friday than it did Saturday, and there was no postponement of that game.
So Saturday night's waterlogged game was completed. Traverse City scored two runs in the top of the ninth for a 3-3 tie, but Washington won with a run in the bottom of the inning.
"That was just wrong to play in those conditions," Jelks said. "But the precedent we set by playing Friday caused us to play (Saturday). Cahill's point that the field looked better than it did Friday was valid."
The game should have never resumed. Baseball wasn't meant to be played in those conditions. But don't pin all the blame on Neader. He was just following standard procedure. The problem is the "Bill Lee Rule."
Lee is the commissioner of the Frontier League and a guy who has done many good things for the league. This, however, is not one of them. His mandate is that all games are to be played/resumed if the infield is dry and the weather forecast is favorable. It doesn't matter how much water is in the outfield.
(When telling this story late Saturday night to O-R assistant sports editor Joe Tuscano, his response was "If that's the case, then why don't they just go ahead and start the season in March?")
The outfield at CEP was simply too dangerous to play on after the water from the tarp was dumped in right field. To illustrate, the Beach Bums' Jake Whitesides hit a routine ground ball single in the 9th and ended up with a double because the ball stopped in a water puddle in right field. Washington's Matt Sutton couldn't scoop the ball out of the water and keep his footing at the same time. Or maybe Sutton was just blinded by all the water that was flying.
"It's sad to say, but it's probably going to take a kid getting hurt badly before we change things," Jelks said. "My question is, can't something be done about it before it gets to that point?"
At some point, common sense and the safety of the players has to come into play. In affiliated ball, Saturday night's game would have never been resumed. It wouldn't have been considered. Major-league teams won't risk getting their high-priced prospects hurt playing in such dangerous conditions.
Remember, the football game in Waynesburg (on artificial turf) was cancelled.
* By my count, when play resumed there were a mere 55 spectators in the ballpark. At least a few of these fans had a sense of humor about the situation. In the top of the ninth, when all was quiet between pitches, several diehards stood up and chanted "Let's play two! Let's play two!"
* The chanters were the Pat O'Brien Fan Club guys. "Pat-O-Bri-En!"
* Did anyone who stayed to the end notice that "Take me out to the ballgame" wasn't played at the seventh-inning stretch? Or that Jeff Williams was announced as "Now pitching for the Beach Boys" during a ninth-inning change?
23 Comments:
DiFabio - a legend in his own mind! Still showing up every night and making his usual ton of mistakes - BEACH BOYS, holy snot Bill pull your head out. Between him and that other guy Dutch they are enouth to make you think your losing your mind.
If any of you actually do lose your mind I sure hope DiFabio picks it up. No matter how slow you are, it would be a power boost for him.
I would rather stay at home and listen on WJPA than go to the ballpark on a night when rain is possible because it will either be delayed before the start of the game or a delay in the middle. I can stay at home and do other stuff and save $$.
Also on the radio you learn more about the game than in person such as when there is a player switch which more often then not is not announced over the pa system.
The only negative about the radio is some jerk insists on blowing a stupid horn every thirty seconds some nights. Perhaps they should put the jerk in with the pa announcer. Or go dutch and make a threesome.
Well, the Wild Things are at it – again. We bought season tickets for the 2008 season last Fall. There was in incentive if the tickets were paid for before a certain date (I don’t recall exactly what the date was). So, we paid for them early in November 2007 and thought we were set for the entire 2008 season. As they say on so many TV commercials, “BUT WAIT!!!!!! When I tried to find my tickets for the game vs. the Sliders on Tuesday, I could not find them. So, I call the Wild Things to ask for duplicate tickets. To my complete amazement they tell me that the season ticket package does NOT include that game, but they would be happy to sell me two ducats to the game. When I ask why this game was excluded from the season ticket package they could offer up no answer. Having no way to get an answer, and not exactly knowing how to get it resolved, I sent an e-mail to the Frontier League Commissioner Mr. Bill Lee. I have spoken with Mr. Lee in the past and found him to be most gracious in providing information. My e- mail reads, in part:
Mr. Lee,
Been having a good time at the games this season.
The issue below has come to my attention and I must admit that it has my ‘hackle’s’ up!
Out of respect to you, I want to give you the opportunity to respond before I post this to the local newspaper blog. There are a lot of things being said on the blogs this year, and most of them are not good. To be honest with you, I think a lot of them have merit. Sometimes it’s almost funny – it just isn’t all that important to me.
Please let me hear from you ASAP about the message below that I intend to post on the O-R ‘Wild About Things” blog. I will not post it if I receive a satisfactory response.
Thank You,
Ron Wilson
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Now here is the post:
How about this guys. I went to my season ticket book and tried to find my tickets for the game vs. the Midwest Sliders on Tuesday afternoon. I was unable to find them so I called the office and ask about it. They informed me that this game was not included in the season ticket package. If my logic is correct, it would seem to me that when you buy a regular season ticket it would include ALL regular season games played so long as the games count in the win-lost column, and also count in the final standings. If this is not so can somebody please tell me why we were not informed that a “season ticket “ was actually not a complete season ticket – that it actually meant all regular season games except one.
I know that this seems like a small issue to most people, but it sure seems a little on the shady side to me. As they say, “It’s the principle”!!!!
As of the time of this post, about 11:30AM, Mr. Lee has not responded to my e-mail. Because this is sort of a time sensitive issue I have decided to go ahead with it now rather than wait. I want to know why a full season ticket package does not include EVERY regular season home game. The Wild Things never mentioned this exclusion when they sold us the package. The only logical conclusion I can reach is that – a ‘season ticket’ is, at least to the Wild Things, is what THEY say it is at the time you happen to ask the question. When I paid for our tickets it was with the understanding that we would have our seats for every home game. However, now, about 7 months after our seats were paid for, the Wild Things decide to change the terms of the agreement implied when one buys a ’full season ticket’. Of course, I’m sure we can expect NO explanation, or compensation.
I have learned a newfound respect for Jesse James now that I never had before. At least Mr. James was very straight forward when he was going to rob you – he’d put a gun in your face and tell you to hand over your cash. Some other folks just smile in your face and stick a stiletto in your back! Now the Wild Things have finally made it to the big leagues – the big leagues of the BUSH Leagues that is!
Also, I was so pleased to see that a lady that called herself a host Mom was at least honest enough to admit taking extra “perks”. I mentioned this very thing to a Wild Things official last season. They VERY STRONGLY denied that this had happened, nor would they ever allow it to happen. So now we know for sure that it does indeed happen – so much for candor from the Wild Things.
Ron Wilson
You're such a crybaby.
Put your name on, don't put you name on.
You're a crybaby.
You love baseball more than you hate whatever issues it is you have with the Wildthings. Otherwise, you'd have quit going.
Leave the rest of us out of it.
Thank you so for that well thought and introspective reply. You must be one of those Wild Things employees that are being sent home early every game because the crowds are dwindling.
At least what Ron wrote was something factual not just a lot of crude dribble as your yours.
Are you the one that runs around in the Wendy’s Frosty suit or, perhaps your Bill DiFabio
To the person that left the interesting reply – the one that referred to me as “crybaby”
If, just for a moment, your could come out from under your mother’s skirt and try to comprehend what you read, (I know that’s going to be a little tough for you, but could you as least try) you will see that I did indeed leave you, and everyone else, out of it. I’m sure your mother did not intend to give birth to such a dolt but, God love her, she did.
I did not pretend to speak for you or anyone else, and nowhere did I even intimate that I did. May I make a suggestion – while your out from under mom’s skirts? PLEASE try to become a real person with enough guts to lend some credibility to your comments. If there is anything I hate, it’s people such as you, the ones with no balls, that makes one wonder what the hell this country is coming to in the electronic age. A bunch of, with a few exceptions, spineless morons hiding behind a computer.
Ron Wilson
This afternoon I received a telephone call from Ross Vecchio of the Wild Things. Someone had called his attention to my post this morning - he wanted to explain to me the reason for the June 24th game not being included in our season ticket package. He explained the reason was that the original package included 48 games, However, there were games added to the package because of the inclusion of some Sliders games that were not originally on the 2008 schedule.
Even though this explanation does make sense to me, I still don’t agree that ALL games should not have been included because all this was an unknown factor during the purchase period last fall. I think the Wild Things would have been well served to have just absorbed the cost and included this game also. The cost would probably been mostly, if not all, recovered in concession sales. Perhaps there are other factors involved that I don’t know about that would have made this not a practical thing to do. The PR would have been a plus. Mr. Vecchio offered to give me his personal seats for tomorrow’s game. As a matter of principle, I declined. I feel that accepting them would not be fair to other season ticket holders that might have wished to attend this game. If I had accepted the offer I would be no better than those that take more than their share of anything. I have seen enough of that at CEF from certain individuals already. Damned if I’m going to start doing it too! He understood how I felt even though his offer was certainly well intentioned.
So, to sum it all up – I have some well deserved “egg on my face”. I must have somehow missed the flyers where this was explained. If someone at the Wild Things office had been capable of answering my question when I called, this would not have been an issue with me. I apologize to the Wild Things for the “Bush League” comment.
Ron Wilson
Speaking of the subject "Waterworld", it lools like another good night to sit at home and listen to the rain delayed game on WJPA. The players that play the outfield tonight for Washington should be called the "Wild Ducks" and the "Sliders" have the appropriate name because that is what they will be doing.
At the rate these players are paid, most of their salaries will go for replacement shoes. Perhaps they should increase all prices and used the proceeds for field drainage.
Just as long as it's not that phony grass!!
To be fair, the Water World issues of the past weekend have NOTHING to do with the drainage system at CEP.
That kind of rain on ANY field is going to create THOSE kinds of problems. Okay, fake grass fields are different, except W&J's football field when the creek rises...
There's a fine line to walk for Bill DiFabio, Dutch, the Wild Thing (I or II), etc. Their jobs are to create interest and excitement in the ballpark. At the same time, there are promotions/contests to conduct that have been sponsored (revenue). That has to be done, and done with energy and enthusiasm. Might they go over the top? Perhaps. But my guess is the sponsors don't see it that way. And while that doesn't matter to you, it IS important.
We make light of the roof-hitting foul balls (we don't do the window breaking or the roof-repair commercial that Bill reads).
Some people are going to be down on the team--tickets cost too much, concession prices are too high, somebody got something they didn't deserve, I didn't get what I did deserve, I had to wait, etc. And I understand that. I complain about things, too, even at CEF.
But the guys are doing their jobs. And they've responded to comments and constructive criticisms: Dutch doesn't go so long on the "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" thing.
Finally, thanks for the "listen on WJPA" notes...And I don't think I WANT to do anything about the Pat O'Brien fans with the horns. For me, it beats the heck out of the deadly silence that's been heard too often this season at CEF.
Perhaps, with a more regular winning, some of this will die down.
I find it amusing that the folks that complain most about things at CEF are the same ones that have the least intestinal fortitude to letting their feelings be known. When the people most able to do something about their concerns comes by they clam up alike a virgin at a sex party. They sit there and piss and moan about Ross, or whoever else has their ire that day, yet won’t speak a word of it when it might really do some good. They are scared crapless of their own shadow. Heaven forbid they might make a wave!
An individual that sits near me complains bitterly about concession prices but continues to buy the stuff like a drunken sailor on shore leave. If he really wants lower prices at the concession stands, I have a suggestion – treat it like illegal drugs – JUST SAY NO!! When sales drop low enough the prices will come down.
Ron Wilson
Gregg,
You make some good points. However, the fans are getting really tired of DiFabio. I know Bill is just an enormous egomaniac – in short- he’s full of himself, God is he ever annoying. His mispronunciations are numerous. and often. He definitely has an ego problem! If he left yesterday that would be one day too long on the job for him, I don’t understand how you could defend this guy. Dutch is a nice person but his act really needs some refreshing. Now he has some young kid running around behind him like a lost puppy dog. This guy acts so goofy that I sometimes think he is one slice short of a full loaf.
Wild Thing II, as you call him, still needs ‘seasoning’ but will probably be able to get the job done. Wild Thing I just cannot be replaced – period and end of story! Yes, I know him and he is a friend but that has nothing to do with my opinion.
Ron Wilson,
Instead of addressing Bill Lee, remember assistant commissioner Leo is sitting behind the Wild Things dugout almost every night. Perhaps he could address the issue or make sure it gets to Bill Lee.
llib,
Did did indeed speak to Leo about it and he didn't know about. He said he was turning his tickets in to the office for credit on his Diamond Card. (He didn't know that game was excluded either).
I don't know if you read my post above or not, but the reason for the exclusion has now been explained to me. I am okay with the answer I got from Ross.
Ron Wilson
Where'd DiFabio go in the sixth inning yesterday? Not that anybody complained about him being gone for the rest of the game, but where'd he go?
Boy, I don't know but I sure hope he doesn't bother to EVER come back!!
He gives a new meaning to "ledgend in his own mind"
Wouldn't it be great to list him as MIA at Consol Energy Field. At least when I heas his voice on WJPA I can change the station, and I do just that.
He sure does butcher the names at times, but I do enjoy listening to him sing along to the songs that the players come out to. Especially this year for Phil Butch.......yes sir!
I hope your kidding! That man is nothing short of disgusting no matter what he does.
If DiFabio was in a major media market he would starve to death. The fact is however that he couldn't make it to a major market!
The quicker he is gone from the PA booth at Consol Energy Park the better... Yes, Sir, the sooner the better.
Please let me clarify one thing. The Wild Thing organization does not give the host families tickets. The players are given tickets which they can give to friends and family on a limited basis. The tickets we receive are given to us by the players.
Also did you ever think that the extra hats the host dad received were because he knew the person giving them out? This is Washington. Everyone knows everyone. It may have had nothing to do with him being a host.
Host Mom,
Did it ever occur to Host Dad to say "no thanks" some other folks might like them. Probably not.
Greed, even on a small scale as this, is NEVER right. Your greed is not defensible - period! If one cheats on a small scale then they will also cheat on anything else.
Maybe you should be mad at the person at the gate? Hasn't someone ever done something special for you without you even asking?
That remark is so stupid that it is outsuvnlright dumb.
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